Friday, January 22, 2010

The statement by Jackie Parkes is not accurate.

>Jackie Parkes MJ said...
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> How come within a year of leaving most of the domus members are now married? Weird!
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> Jackie MJ

The statement by Jackie Parkes is not accurate.

I count eighteen Miles Jesu domus members who left community life during the spring and summer of 2007. It is possible that two of these do not fit strictly within this time frame. It is possible that the total number is slightly higher than eighteen.

From these numbers, six people married since leaving Miles Jesu. None married within the first year of their leaving. The marriages took place from a year and a half after leaving Miles Jesu and onward. The last marriage was recent.

These statistics show that Mrs. Parkes statement is not accurate. These statistics do not suggest something unusual about some leaving members discerning the vocation of marriage and moving ahead with their lives. A moderate number of leaving members married within a reasonable period of time.

In my opinion, the statistics reflect normalcy.

Greater care should have been given to determining the accuracy of information before a generalized and non-investigated statement was made. Apparently, her information was based on a trust in her source. Noting accurate information, I do not imply anything negative about Mrs. Parkes.

9 comments:

  1. The statement regarding Jackie's statement is inaccurate. I believe her name is "Parkes," not "Parks." But seriously, it's helpful to know the actual numbers on this one. Somebody should have checked information before posting.

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  2. You know what WHO CARES about the actual numbers? Get a life people, Miles Jesu is a cult. I wouldn't be surprised if all the members who left were all insane now. That is beside the point though. The fact is that Vicariate started an investigation into Miles Jesu. Why? Google it.

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  3. But isn't it like me after 25 years of marriage requesting an annulment & go off join a convent? How come so many of their vocations were dispensed..surely they should ..ie the celibate members been sent to another Institute..if they thought their own was problematic? How can you be celibate over 20 years & then go & do the opposite..speaking honestly a lot of us are questioning what kind of an initial vocation the left members had. I have no idea about abuses but it's good Rome is overseeing..I've had help from my priests re my marriage..nothing wrong with that..& Fr general has been very ill..we don't live in a perfect world..

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  4. Jackie, that is the point, the members that left didn't have a vocation. They were taught that if they did not join Miles Jesu they would go to hell. They weren't given the normal discernment that any seminarian or novice would be given in a normal religious order. One member made a supposedly permanently binding commitment after only 3 months. This is against Canon Law. Also Canon Law teaches that commitments made under duress or coercion are not valid. In fact, in the 1917 Code of Canon Law if a religious superior forced someone to make a commitment, they were excommunicated. The New Canon Law is silent on this issue, but that just illustrates how serious an offense this is.

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  5. Additionally the Church does not have the power to dissolve marriage, but it does have the power to dissolve even completely valid vows. To deny that the Church has such a power is to deny the Church has the keys and the power to "bind and loose".

    Therefore, if it has the power to dissolve vows that are completely valid what can be said about vows in a group where the discernment period consisted of non-confidential spiritual direction to unqualified lay members, who would reveal private matters told in spiritual direction to Fr. General?

    If a member would mention in spiritual direction that they didn't think they were called to Miles Jesu, more often than not this comment would be exposed to the whole community publically in the chapel during Mass or night prayers. This is how things work and the condition under which people made decisions about their "vocation" to Miles Jesu. Really, Jackie, just thank God none of your sons or daughters ever joined Miles Jesu.

    Also if you study how things worked in the Legionaries of Christ, that will give you some insight as to how Miles Jesu worked behind closed doors. While it is not exactly the same situation, it is quite similar.

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  6. This situation about Miles Jesu is all new to me. Just today I was at a "Celebration of Life" Mass back here in California for Fr. Paul Vota — who was a good friend and high school classmate of mine. But I last saw him about 1976 or so after he had joined Miles Jesu — about which I knew nothing. And still know little.

    And I was saddened to hear in a comment about an earlier post here that Paul's actual funeral was so poorly attended.

    A Miles Jesu priest (didn't catch his name) celebrated the Mass. Of course, none of what I'm now reading here came up anywhere near the surface. Still the unspoken subtext troubled my friends and myself immediately. I am saddened, too, to think of how much people's families have to suffer from this rupture of their brother, sister, son, daughter from their lives. It's a gross distortion of Jesus' teaching.

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  7. I used to know Tom Cahill, Romeo Salcido, and Fred Bach in Miles Jesu. Can anyone say how they are? I hope they are OK.

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  8. for Tim: I go to mass at Miles Jesu and Father Salcido is doing Great.

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    1. Hello, my name is Sasha. I need to contact Father Romeo Salcido. He did my Sweet 15's blessing in Puerto Rico. I'm engaged and having him as the wedding priest would be a miracle and a dream come true! Can anyone help me?? Please??? My email is sashaacobe@gmail.com

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